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Sunday, October 08, 2006

Bob Piper: bigoted fuckwit

posted by Devil's Kitchen at 10/08/2006 06:00:00 PM

Plugging around the blogs, as one does, I found myself at the blog of Councillor Bob Piper. Although I was aware of this man and aware of his blog, I had not really stopped to read it before. I am not as tolerant as The Longrider and I do tend to dislike people because of thier political affiliations or, rather, I do often write them off as ignorant morons.

And given that ignorant morons piss me right off, I thought that I'd do my blood pressure a favour and stay away from Bob. But, this time I found myself sampling some of the man's writing. Two things in particular caught my eye.

His comment on Councillor Clutterbuck was facile, but betraying exactly the kind of filthy jackbooted authoritarianism that makes me despise NuLabour's criminal classes adherents. [Emphasis mine.]
I suspect (on absolutely no evidence, I hasten to add) that Cllr. Clutterbuck is your standard old Tory bore who was adding his little piece of nonsense on to another piece of nonsense and that no amount of social re-programming will change him.

Ah, I do so love that phrase "social reprogramming". I'm sure that was what they did in A Clockwork Orange, wasn't it? And I'm damned sure that O'Brien was a big fan. Actually, totalitarians have always been rather keen on "social reprogramming".

Thus, I suspect (on absolutely no evidence, I hasten to add) that Cllr. Piper is a disgusting, sanctimonious, authoritarian, bigoted, ignorant old scrote and that no amount of reasonable argument about the advantages of libertarianism will ever convince him that making people think what you think is actually considered to be... well... wrong.

Because, you know, I'm pretty fucking sure that the Labour Party is also full of older people who are also not keen on homosexuals; it's pretty much a generational trait, rather than a political party one. Still, I doubt that Bob'll admit that.

Piper displays more of the pathetic bigotry (that I have absolutely no evidence for) in the post before that, which he wittily entitles Mass Debating (it's nice to know that the Councillor is young at heart. About fucking twelve, I would guess; this must be what they mean by someone enjoying their "second childhood": thinking that wank jokes are still witty). He is referring to (yet another) "the launch of the new Tory eurosceptic group, the Movement for European Reform."

Now, a quick aside here: I don't count these people as Eurosceptics. I don't really know how to badge them, frankly; they are people who don't like the European Union but for some reason think that it should exist in some form, and are deluded enough to think that the EU can be changed. Or perhaps they are Eurosceptics and everyone who thinks that we are better off out of it are... what? Me, I'm a EUnihilist: I don't think that it should exist at all and that, if it does, we should be out of it.

Anyway, the point is that there are many, many people who have misgivings about the EU (and the regular EUsceptic Roundups will continue to highlight why)—not Europe, which is a geographical place, but the EU, which is a collection of political institutions—and this bunch of Tories are a long way from being anywhere near the most extreme of them. In fact, they are still in the part of the spectrum that I would label "stupid, ignorant, deluded, unwitting traitors". They are far more EUphile than I would like.

Oh, but not for Bob Piper, oh no! What is his take on this group?
Well, you can't get much clearer than that about your objectives can you? And you thought it was just another front organisation for all those xenophobes and other crackpots to whinge on and on about straight bananas and being in Europe but not ruled by Europe. As if.

Right, Bob; anyone who expresses any doubts about the EU project is a xenophobe. Of course they are, Bob. So that would make me a xenophobe, wouldn't it, Bob? I don't travel as much as I'd like, Bob, but I have been to numerous EU countries (Greece, France, Portugal, Belgium, Italy, etc.) and liked them; plus, of course, I speak one language (French) pretty fluently and another (Spanish) passably; how about you, Bob?

Anyway, Bob, since everyone who disagrees with the EU project—all of those who wish to keep control of their own economic affairs; who object to being ruled by a Commission who are not democratically accountable; who object to the fact that, despite the French and Dutch rejecting it, the Commission is implementing the instruments of the Comstitution anyway; who object to working hard just so that French farmers don't have to; who object to the fact that the EU, as a customs union, makes us all poorer; who object to the EU's tariffs, the CAP and the censures on countries using DDT which, between them, cause hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of unnecessary deaths in the Developing World every year—is a little Ingerlunder xenophobe, perhaps you would like to tell me, precisely, why you do support this project?

Otherwise, I will have to conclude, as I am forced to from the rest of your writing, that you are an ignorant, bigoted fuckwit, a supporter of murder and an enemy of democracy. Needless to say, I shall not be visiting Bob's blog again, and he can fuck right off, with my blessing.

Fuck off, Bob. Say it aloud, chaps; it has something of a ring to it, don'cha think?

posted by Devil's Kitchen at 10/08/2006 06:00:00 PM


27 Blogger Comments:

Anonymous Longrider said...

"Thus, I suspect (on absolutely no evidence, I hasten to add) that Cllr. Piper is a disgusting, sanctimonious, authoritarian, bigoted, ignorant old scrote"

Whad'ya mean "no evidence"? Every word the man writes provides evidence...

.... ah... irony, irony...

Sit back now and wait for the insults to come pouring in.

10/08/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger Bob Piper said...

Another satisfied reader.

10/08/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

DK,

This man's crassly insenstive remarks about xenophobes shows that he has no commitment to a plural, diverse society in which xenophobes are able to practice their xenophobia with dignity and respect.

This preacher of xenophobophobia would have xenophobes marginalised, turned into second class citizens unable to march the streets of Sandwell in John Bull costumes while singing rude songs about the Germans.

He needs diversity training; and if I didn't know any better I'd say he was a xenophile.

10/08/2006 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous ghost of john trenchard said...

interesting how Bob dismisses Straw's "veil" arguments with the radio argument (i.e. you dont need face to face to have a discussion)

trouble is Bob, it goes a bit deeper than that. much deeper. Straw just didnt have the guts to say it.

when I see a veil , i see somebody who supports Osama Bin Laden. Somebody who thinks Sharia Law should be imposed on the UK. Somebody who is an utter fascist who divides the world into "Kuffars" and "Muslims".

thats what i see - and for me, wearing a veil is as offensive as wearing an S.S. uniform.

10/09/2006 01:08:00 AM  
Blogger wonkotsane said...

I've commented on Bob's blog before and been insulted plenty of times. If you agree with him he loves you, if you disagree with him or Labour then you're the spawn of Satan. The man's deluded. He really thinks Labour is doing a good job and that they can win the next election and woe betide anyone who dares say otherwise.

10/09/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Blogger UK Daily Pundit said...

Bob tends to disagree with BNP types. Meaning YOU Wanko.

10/09/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous JuliaM said...

Definition of a 'BNP type'= someone who disagrees with Bob Piper and/or Nu Labour.

Good to know.....

10/09/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger The Nameless One said...

The phrase "I suspect (on absolutely no evidence, I hasten to add)" is very useful. Let's eliminate evidence altogether from argument. Could be a lot of fun. It allows me to say "I suspect (on absolutely no evidence, I hasten to add) that Bob Piper has his head inserted firmly into his anus and is the kind of Nu Labour trog who gives loval councillors a bad name."

10/09/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the brainless tory clearly doesn't have a clue about new labour if that's what he thinks.

10/09/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Longrider said...

Oh, I don't know, if experience is anything to go by, it's pretty damned accurate.

10/09/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger prawn crackers said...

Bob Piper is in love with himself. Call him the poor man's Hain - as vain and as vacuous. He has a little line in NuLab patter and platitudes as taught to him by Campbell and others. Leave Bob alone to play with himself. He is harmless and means well.

10/09/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

I shut down my blog because I knew I didn't have the intellect to engage in the debate but then I read your illiterate nonsense and by god it confirmed to me that any idiot can be offensive and you are the biggest idiot of them all!

10/09/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

you are the biggest idiot of them all!

Excellent! Can you imagine the ignominy of being merely a mediocre idiot? Oh, I forgot; you don't need to imagine it, do you?

DK

10/10/2006 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

Well that devasting riposte must have utterly exhausted your brain cell - back to the pond amoeba.

10/10/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

At the risk of being accused of feeding the troll, how old are you? Seriously, that's the kind of retort I'd expect from an 11 year old. I'm surprised that you didn't add "with brass knobs on, so ner ner nerner ner" and stick your tongue out at me.

Given that you yourself felt your intellect was too meagre to sustain a 'blog, I think it mildly presumptious of you to imagine that your comments are providing any greater entertainment than the self-confessed shit you wrote previously. Get back under your bridge, troll...

Fucking hell, the dozy cunts they let near a computer these days, eh...

DK

10/10/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Ernesto said...

"Bob Piper - Bigoted Fuckwit.."

To where would you and Mr Longrider like your respective pot and kettle delivered?

10/10/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

Hey amoeba try having a go at forming a complete sentence (difficult enough for you I know - you could try borrowing another brain cell from one of your mates and doubling your capacity)without resorting to idiotic use of offensive language - go on give it a go show us that you really are capable of adult debate - oh no can't do it here comes the inarticulate and illiterate abuse.............

10/10/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

Brain cell overload - can't let the comment appear until consulted other amoebas about witty response eh..... come on be quicker moron lets see just how good you are - remember NO JUVENILE LANGUAGE you can do it come on......

10/10/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

Oh no brain cell really dead - failed test can't rise above the primordial soup FOAD!

10/10/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

Paul,

I have rather better things to do with my time that leap to reply whenever you comment; indeed, were your comments a little more interesting, then you might get a swifter reply. I doubt it though.

In the meantime, when you learn to punctuate then I may decide to have a go at completing my sentences. And when you learn some new jokes, I may consider dropping some of the swearing that people come here for (although I wouldn't bet on it). Frankly, for you to describe me as illiterate, in the light of your contributions here, shows a stunning lack of self-knowledge.

Ernesto,

Ha! I'll have mine delivered to Edinburgh, please. Are the pot and kettle a matching set...?

DK

10/10/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Macmanomy said...

If you have better things to do than respond to me .... how come you keep talking your shit in response to me then? No life, no brain - try getting one! Oh and by the way i've written down my prediction of your response and given it to my mates (sad fuck like you won't have any of those of course because amoebas can't relate) And HEEEEREEE IT COMES...........

10/10/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger Devil's Kitchen said...

I did say "leap to reply" which would connote some urgency; I don't ind replying to you for now -- I just have things to do in between. You are becoming slightly repetitive now, so I doubt that I shall rply again.

DK

10/10/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Longrider said...

"To where would you and Mr Longrider like your respective pot and kettle delivered?"

A self-addressed envelope will do the trick nicely.

10/10/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger TaKtiX said...

Hmmm. No, sorry. You lost me at the "Bob Piper = Nu Labour" bit. I think he dislikes Tony nearly as much as thee and me mate, but there y'go.

I'll ignore Paul for the obvious reasons, not even sure why I'm bothering mentioning him at all except for fatigue.

Like Stuart/Wonko, I comment there when I've time to trawl around the various blogs. I don't think he thinks I'm the spawn of satan; he knows what party I'm a member of, that makes me worse. But the insults (both ways) are no worse than people get here, in fact mostly it's banter.

But then, I don't take any of his insults at all seriously. Meh, 2am, time to try to sleep methinks.

On a more serious note; I do think the term "Eurosceptic" has become so broad as to be almost meaningless, to be sceptical is not necessarily to oppose it's very existence; by some definitions, you could call me a sceptic on the whole thing, and given our views are almost diametrically opposed? That Tory group is probably fairly accurately described, it's somewhere in the mid-ground of the range of usage anyway.

Meh, about a week behind on reading stuff here, let alone commenting, and I lost my "Annunziata Rees Mogg is a fucking idiot" notes, I had enough bile in that to suit this place, been awhile, ah well...

10/12/2006 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous MatGB said...

Feck. TaKtiX is me, logged in under the wrong ID, d'oh!

10/12/2006 02:13:00 AM  
Blogger Praguetory said...

Sorry to disturb on a Saturday morning. Here is the evidence of the suspicions you noted above. Feel free to ressurect your bile.

12/09/2006 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger Praguetory said...

And self-confessed thicko, Tony Macmanomy has started a blog again. Second post and fifth post involves outing me. Blogging scum.

12/14/2006 10:02:00 AM  

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